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  CAN ANYONE TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE ATOMIC METRON B5I ?
Thursday 31st January 2008 at 12:21:36 AM  

islander
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Hello ,
I am intending to buy Atomic Metron B5i and would like to hear if anyone had problem with that ...
 
Thursday 31st January 2008 at 6:50:53 AM  

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Since we're talking 'bout Atomic, there's probably nothing wrong with the Metron B5. Atomic makes very good skis indeed.
 
But since you're obviously looking for an all-mountain ski, I'd strongly recommend that you go for the Völkl Mantra instead. It's probably the most versatile all-mountain ski you'll find on the market today!

Tommy B
Thursday 31st January 2008 at 9:00:35 AM  

islander
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thanx very very much for advise :)
 
Thursday 31st January 2008 at 10:13:02 AM  

tommbakk
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No worries, man.
 
Although, since you were looking for the Metron B5, I guess I have to point out for pure piste skiing, the B5 is better than the Mantra.
 
But, for ANY other terrain/condition, the Mantra will be superior.
 
If you for some reason MUST go for a pair of Atomic skis, I'd look at the Nomad Crimson. With a proportion of 129/86/115 (at 183 cm's) it's a better off-piste solution than the Metron B5.

Tommy B
Tuesday 5th February 2008 at 5:21:19 PM  

hipshot
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The Atomic Metron B5i is with out a doubt in my opinion the best all mountain, any condition ski made. With that said it is also an advanced to expert ski that demands technical skills to get the most performance. I use these skis. I am a professional ski instructor with 30 years experience. I love them. They will perform on the groomers and still float you in the powder and cruise through the crud. The Mantra is more a freeride ski with a fat waist, good for all mountain but not going to perform when laying down a carve and will probably fight back in the crud. The Nomad is a good compromise, but with a fatter waist and longer turn radius, will not crank as tight on the groomers. I don't know what your skill level is, but make sure you buy enough ski to meet your level or ski up to , but not more than you can handle. Skis like the B5i demand a good solid carving technique and advanced shape ski initiation to enjoy fully. Folks who are skidders and late initiators ( as the majority of the public are) need something a bit more forgiving. I have found that there seems to be two schools of preference out there, depending on personal style. Those that like German/Austrian skis and those who like French/Swiss/American skis.
Hope that is not too confusing
Hipshot
 
Tuesday 5th February 2008 at 5:26:56 PM  

hipshot
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PS
I don't where this website gets its rating system, I just logged in to answer your question. I am hardly a "snow ignoramus"
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Tuesday 5th February 2008 at 6:12:52 PM  

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hipshot posted the following on Tuesday 5th February 2008
The Atomic Metron B5i is with out a doubt in my opinion the best all mountain, any condition ski made. With that said it is also an advanced to expert ski that demands technical skills to get the most performance. I use these skis. I am a professional ski instructor with 30 years experience. I love them. They will perform on the groomers and still float you in the powder and cruise through the crud. The Mantra is more a freeride ski with a fat waist, good for all mountain but not going to perform when laying down a carve and will probably fight back in the crud. The Nomad is a good compromise, but with a fatter waist and longer turn radius, will not crank as tight on the groomers. I don't know what your skill level is, but make sure you buy enough ski to meet your level or ski up to , but not more than you can handle. Skis like the B5i demand a good solid carving technique and advanced shape ski initiation to enjoy fully. Folks who are skidders and late initiators ( as the majority of the public are) need something a bit more forgiving. I have found that there seems to be two schools of preference out there, depending on personal style. Those that like German/Austrian skis and those who like French/Swiss/American skis.
Hope that is not too confusing
Hipshot


 
Geez, you're right, man... I don't know what I was thinking...Recommending a ski like the Völkl Mantra???
 
How dumb am I!? I mean, this crappy German ski...it was probably just PURE LUCK that it got awarded the "Ski of The Year" in the U.S in 2005 and 2006, pluss it has topped countless of tests and reviews in all the major ski magazines all over the world for the past 3 year (and still doing so), basically wiping the floors...or should I say the mountains, with the competition
 
But heck, you're a ski instructor over 30 years, and the tests in those ski magazines? Nah, they're of course just bull...what do the people who test skis in the aknowledged ski magazines both in the U.S/Canada and in Europe know about recognizing a great ski when they try one anyway??? I'm sure they roll dices to determine the outcome.
OK, sarcasm aside...
 
You honestly think that German and Austrian skis behave in one certain way, while Swiss, French and American skis behaves in a whole other way???
 
Damn, and you've been skiing for how long, did ya say???
 
With all the different models for different types of skiing (jibbing, freeride, racing, cruising, etc) the different brands put out on the market, there is NO WAY you can say that a "German ski is like this, and an American is like that" You can for damn sure not even say that one Armada-ski is like another from the same company. Try to compare Armada's Pipe Cleaner to Armada's ARG, or K2's Public Enemy to K2's Apache Coomba ...
 
So, you're totally off line, man...
 
And regarding what you said about the Mantra not being able to lay down a carve???
 
(By the way, were you born with your superb ability to spew bullshit, or have you taken classes??)
 
The Mantra carves very good indeed! (I have NO IDEA what you're talking about, but you don't know your skis...)
 
It acts like a GS racing ski on groomed pists, while it eats crud for breakfast, then for lunch, even dinner, and then it asks for god-damned seconds! In between these meals of crud, it sucks down fresh powder in better style than Jack Nicholson at a wild Hollywood party!
 
Ice? No problem, the Mantra takes it, even at high speeds.
 
The fact that the Mantra wins so many darn tests and reviews, is because of it's MASSIVE versatility! It really is a quiver of one; a ski that does it all, and does it VERY good!
 
The ONLY thing it doesn't ace, is bottomless powder...and in bottomless powder, you won't be able to ski perfectly anyway without fatskis that have waists above 110mm.
 
But to summarize, you ended your post by saying you hoped that it wasn't too confusing?
 
Trust me, it was NOT confusing at all!
 
Actually, your "knowledge" regarding modern skis, came across as clear as George W. Bush's "knowledge" regarding geography...(No, it's not a compliment...sorry)
 
I don't doubt that you know how to ski yourself...you might even be very good...but like I said, your knowledge in the ski-equipment section, is not up to date...

Tommy B
Thursday 7th February 2008 at 7:47:35 PM  

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Wow, tommy being sarcastic again...

I haven't heard from you for a long time...


 
Tuesday 12th February 2008 at 12:01:07 AM  

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Islander,

Obviously people here are a bit passionate about their favourite skis. I'd suggest you find a decent rental shop, or a shop that does test/demo skis, and try out both the Atomics and the Volkls. Then buy the ones you like best. After all, what makes the better ski is often down to personal preference.

And Tommy, you can ski deep powder perfectly well without fat skis, it's just not as easy

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Friday 22nd February 2008 at 5:20:56 PM  

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Tommy B....get back on your meds and stay away from shape objects. Granted the post was "I know more than you do" but your edge is over the top.

Back to the question at hand: I own the Atomic Sugar Daddy and and skied the Mantra and just demoed the B5i for 2 days on a trip to Whistler. If you are looking for a carver B5i is the way to go. Mantra can not compete no matter who is driving it....Even Tommy B.
Mantra at 170cm is a turn radius of 18.2.
B5i at 172cm is a turn radius of 12.
Both are two great skis but for different things. If you're after pulling sharpe G's when the powder has been eaten for the day the B5i is the stick. The B5i is also very good in the soft snow but not as good as the Mantra. Get both and have the best of all worlds covered...although for powder I would take the Sugar Daddy over the Mantra but that is a personal pref.
Peace
 
Sunday 30th March 2008 at 8:22:36 PM  

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Hi hipshot ,

I just read your post in regards to Atomic Metron B5I versus Mantra and I found it very informative, well done. I can’t believe the ignorance and rudeness around us, what I mean is the respond to your post from some OTHER members, I am speechless! Nevertheless, I would be very happy to hear your PROFESIONAL opinion about Atomic Metron B5I, Atomic Metron 11B5C and Salomon X-Wing 10 as these are the models that I am considering. Some info about me I am 40, 5’-10”, 156 lbs, strong intermediate- advance, skiing mostly single black trails in the east. The ice is very common in my area; however, I do go a minimum once a season to BC but stay at the front side. I like carving a lot especially short turns. Current skis, Atomic C-Series 7.2 R-15 108-72-98 length 158 cm.

I think that skiing is all about mileage and experience, experience and mileage.... In my opinion a person with 30 years of skiing experience and on top of that instructor is THE source where people like me should turn for advice. I will be very happy to hear from you if you are able to give me some.... advice.

 
Wednesday 9th April 2008 at 2:57:07 AM  

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Hipshot,
Great post.
I am also an instructor and you are absolutely right. The b5i is the best of the best. ANYONE who compares it to another ski simply does not know what skiing is all about. There is no ski that even comes close to it for versatility.
 
Monday 8th September 2008 at 9:09:10 AM  

Holson
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B5i  In the last 50 years I have been skiing, nothing compares to these skis. The only advice I can give you, make sure your knees and legs are in top shape as the G force these skis can create is incredible. You can make a sharp turn at almost any speed. In the last 7 Years I have had Bandits and Z3 by Rossignol they are a light ski compared to the almost 19 lbs.  of Metron. If you want a ski that blows threw crude with a point and shoot attitude get ready, it will give you the ride of your life.
Other than that no problems with the skis

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